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Old 12-02-2019, 09:27 AM   #21
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It's getting there. Almost done cleaning.

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Old 12-02-2019, 04:33 PM   #22
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Looking good - get an old tooth brush to get into the nooks and crannies.
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:55 PM   #23
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Yessir, that was my plan. A little diesel and a nylon brush.

No more cleaning today, but I did get the clutch and pressure plate off to inspect. Ugh.

Photography isn't my strong suit, but you can see the minor discoloration on the flywheel's surface.


The hairline cracks all along the inner diameter were more concerning.


That's odd, what is this little trail in the pressure plate?


Oh.


According to the service manual, the minimum for clutch thickness is 6.1mm. There's actually a service limit for the clutch rivets' depth as well, but we're way past that obviously since they were eating into the pressure plate.
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Old 12-03-2019, 11:09 AM   #24
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Rear Main condition

Definitely needs replacement.
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Old 12-03-2019, 12:53 PM   #25
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I think I got away with having my flywheel resurfaced the first time I changed the clutch in Ruby; second time I think I replaced it.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:53 PM   #26
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I took the flywheel to get machined earlier today, and they said it wasn't bad at all. They only had to take .008" off the face to get it ready.

So that's ready. I got the main seal girdle off today as I'm going to replace the whole thing with the Honda piece that has the seal already in place. I thought it was neat that the seal is pre-lubed.


Just need to scrape off a little crud (possibly a little factory Hondabond?)


I'm curious as to if I need to add a bit behind the plate. Anyone know if this paper gasket is necessary? They were included in the Fel-Pro rear main seal kit.
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:02 PM   #27
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So I asked the question about the paper gasket because, surprise surprise, someone did this before and they omitted it. There is supposed to be one, per the service manual. Maybe that's why it ended up leaking? I don't know.

In any case I installed the new seal housing after first doing the paper gasket, then cleaned the oil pan up and installed that with a new gasket.



After that I reinstalled the flywheel, fresh from resurfacing. Torque the nuts to 76 lb-ft, kids.
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Old 12-06-2019, 10:14 PM   #28
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Just out of curiosity. Did you replace the flywheel nuts? The manual calls for it but I know I have done a couple clutch replacements and used the same nuts.
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:15 AM   #29
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So I asked the question about the paper gasket because, surprise surprise, someone did this before and they omitted it. There is supposed to be one, per the service manual. Maybe that's why it ended up leaking? I don't know.

In any case I installed the new seal housing after first doing the paper gasket, then cleaned the oil pan up and installed that with a new gasket.

After that I reinstalled the flywheel, fresh from resurfacing. Torque the nuts to 76 lb-ft, kids.
My 93 OEM Honda service manual only calls for Hondabond between the block and rear main seal plate.

Felpro makes gaskets for some applications where maybe folks are uncomfortable using just Hondabond. I know I did when reinstalling the oil pan gasket on my daughter's Element - it was difficult to work with getting the pan on and I thought the gasket would be a little more forgiving of inadvertent contact with other parts as I tried to install the pan. I put of thin layer of Hondabond on both sides of the gasket as well. I did not do that for the timing cover.
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Old 12-07-2019, 02:48 PM   #30
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You know what, you're right. I triple checked and the manual makes no mention of a gasket. It just shows that picture of the area to apply sealer, which coincidentally looks just like the gasket In any case I don't think it will hurt to have the gasket in there.

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Just out of curiosity. Did you replace the flywheel nuts? The manual calls for it but I know I have done a couple clutch replacements and used the same nuts.
No I did not. I'd seen mention of doing so on this forum, but my '91 service manual makes no mention of it, or using threadlocker as others have done.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:13 AM   #31
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I remember using the paper gasket the first time I ever did this job. I remember them leaking after not too long. Had to take it all back apart and Hondabond it. I've always Hondabonded the rear plate and the oil pump to the block since that incident.
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Old 12-08-2019, 02:45 PM   #32
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I've only done two clutch replacements on our cars. Both times I reused the original clutch/flywheel hardware, (bolts), with no thread locker and just torqued to spec. I've experienced no problems.
As for the rear main seal housing, I'll second using the Hondabond and chunk that paper gasket.
That housing only requires clean surfaces and a sealer.
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