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    More 2006 info, some driver impressions, new pics, and the return of the CRX!!

    http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102867

    Honda Builds a Better Civic: Still no double wishbones but a CRX is coming in two years

    The new 2006 Honda Civic, due this fall, is more fun to drive than the car it replaces, our spies tell us, and there will even be a return of the racer’s favorite CRX badge in 2007. That’s not bad news, is it?

    Those we spoke to who have driven the new Civic were enthusiastic about it.

    “It’s an awesome car. It drives like the Integra Type R,” said one.

    “This is exactly what Honda needs,” said another.

    And these were performance-lovin’ guys.

    Though Honda calls it an “all-new” car, a number of platform and suspension pieces either carry over or are only slightly revised.

    The new Civic makes those gains without a return to double wishbones in front. The new suspension still has MacPherson struts. The rear suspension is also “revised,” but details are scarce. Expect a slightly tighter multilink setup.

    Top of the engine chart is the 200-hp version of the K20 four-cylinder that will power the Civic Si and CRX. Civic Si— the most powerful Civic ever, according to Honda—will bow at the Specialty Equipment Market Association show in Las Vegas this November.

    Of course, with the new SAE horsepower ratings, that 200-hp figure might wind up being 197, which doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as 200. Honda is wringing its corporate hands over that. Even so, a 197-hp rating is still better than the 160 hp of today’s Si, though maybe even that’s now 158 or so, SAE.

    The new Si engine will have 16 valves operated by dual overhead cams and i-VTEC, or variable lift electronic control with intelligence. Redline will be 8000 rpm. The Si engine will be mated to a six-speed manual and it will get a helical limited-slip differential. It will ensure power goes to the ground instead of spinning the inside-front tire uselessly.

    Most of the Civic lineup will have a new 1.8-liter four that will make more power and offer a 6 percent improvement in fuel economy. Honda says the 1.8 offers the acceleration of a 2.0-liter and the fuel economy of a 1.5-liter engine. The 1.8 uses improved i-VTEC, drive-by-wire and variable-length intake runners to achieve its increased performance. Peak power is 140 hp and peak torque is 128 lb-ft, though there are suggestions a 155- or 160-hp version could be coming.

    The 2006 Civic line will get a new hybrid engine that will be 20 percent more efficient than today’s. The gasoline engine portion of the hybrid will be 1.3 liters and offer three phases of i-VTEC, one for low rpm, one for high and one for idle. At idle the gas engine shuts down, restarting when the driver steps on the gas.

    All that running gear will be placed in what Honda calls a new body from the floorpan up. Standard wheels are expected to be 15 inches, with 16-inch wheels on the EX and 17-inch wheels on the Si.

    The Civic will come in two body styles, a four-door sedan and a two-door coupe. Sources say the bodies are slightly longer and wider. Combined with a slightly more cab-forward style, interior space is thus opened up. The Civic dash, meanwhile, is two-tiered, with an instrument binnacle bulging out of it. The interior generally gets favorable reviews from those who have seen it.

    The slightly larger 2006 Civic will move it upscale just enough to make room for the coming five-door Jazz/Fit, due in the first half of next year. That smaller car will be aimed at Scion and at whatever Nissan decides to call its entry-level youth-oriented line. Stay tuned for word on all that.









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    #2
    yuck.....remings me of a mitsu/saturn.........
    [deevergote]" It's not the car that makes the ricer... it's the ricer that ruins the car!"

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      #3
      looks like a neon
      po crackers need speed too!

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        #4
        I like the red car there, but I like the lower cladding of the the silver one. I think this car definitely needs bigger/wide wheels and a wing to pull it off.

        I'm interested to see what the CRX looks like.

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          #5
          Looks almost as if they beat it over the head with a Prius.

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            #6
            looks like a mini 05 2rd ex-v6-6spd accord

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              #7
              Where are the pics of the new coupe? All I see is a Saturn.

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                #8
                So we're getting a 2700lb CRX, eh?

                Honda needs to cater to the aftermarket crowd with a stripped down, lightweight, $13,000 econoshitbox. The greatest thing about the CRX was that it had Honda engineering backing up all the important things (like suspension, motor, etc...) and NOTHING else. The whole point of a CRX was that the stock 100hp motor (roughly speaking, I know there were great variations) could propel it much faster than one might expect. It was a small, inexpensive, lightweight machine that still has a loyal following. The newest Civics out now weigh damn near 2500lbs, and still have pretty pathetic power in the lower models.

                To bring the CRX back as a variation on the new Civic (as it was on the old Civics) will be an insult to the market. Honda SHOULD know by now that a large portion of the demand for the CRX will be from the tuner market. I somehow have little faith that they will release a 2200lb car worth a damn.
                However, if they put out a 2200lb CRX with decent styling (something resembling the old style, perhaps) with a DOHC motor capable of making at least 160hp I would be interested.






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                  #9
                  Googled 2007 CRX today, found this:



                  I don't like it at all.

                  Discuss.

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                    #10
                    thats hideious
                    po crackers need speed too!

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                      #11
                      ROFL thats gross. IMO, I seriously am not expecting this new CRX, however it looks, to actually be all that great. I think that the people that want a very light body, with the ability to swap in a very powerful motor are going to have to do it to the Honda Fit thats coming states-side. Everything Ive read in Honda Tuning Magazine has pretty much pointed towards the Fit in terms of a very light car that becomes a monster once you slap a K20 into it.

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                        #12
                        Id rock the coupe..the sedan is questionable though..
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by souldoubt
                          looks like a mini 05 2rd ex-v6-6spd accord

                          Agreed, and that's not a bad thing to look like.

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                            #14
                            Deev, the article didn't say how much the CRX is gonna way, but it did say that its getting a 200hp motor. As for the styling, just look at the Insight. I alway said to myself that the Insight looke like what a CRX would if it was produced the same years ('cept the CRX was a teeny bit wider).
                            -nostalgia kicking in- My first car was a '84 CRX. Boy, did I love that car. I once had 9 people in it! Drove around like that and everything!
                            So wish I coulda made it to the meet, Deev. I actually had 4 different things I coulda done that night, and didn't actually get to do any of them! Ah, the perils of having a 10-month-old!
                            (Whoops, that's alot of people posting in between when I brought up this thread and when I responded. Now that i've seen the pic.. they shoulda gone with the Insight body!)

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                              #15
                              Now you know how I feel... I always get 3 or 4 people posting ahead of me when I write my usual novels on here!

                              If the CRX gets a 200hp engine, then it might stand a chance. If they can keep the weight down, it will be even better! At least under 2500! Imagine something like a B18C5 in an 89 CRX... from the factory...

                              Warrior, if that turd in the picture actually makes it to production... I don't know what to think! I mean, take away the gaudy paint and it's not THAT bad... but it's no CRX! I would much rather have something that looks like the Insight. I always saw a little CRX in that thing anyway!






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