First Hellcat swap

[wed3k]

brp muscle rods already has the new LT engine swap in their 68 C10. prototype stage right now

[CyborgGT]

I'll never understand why domestic car guys think burnouts are so cool.

I've seen a few Challenger Hellcats, but I'll agree with that video that the Charger is the cooler of the two. Being a comfy sedan probably has a lot to do with that. Saw one at Concours this year, parked up next to some limp-wristed Vipers. At first I wasn't feeling the new front end, but it's seriously grown on me. With the Hellcat being available with an automatic, it's making me wonder how difficult it would be to stick one in a Magnum. Supposedly Jeep's putting this engine into the Cherokee SRT-8, calling it a Track Cat or something like that... I dig it, the Cherokee SRT-8s are bad ass enough.

[Domesticated]

I'll never understand why domestic car guys think burnouts are so cool.

I've never seen the love of burnouts reduced to a single crowd. I've probably seen more FWD burnouts than anything. Also, with my very limited international travel, it's just as common overseas as it is here from what I've seen.

[deevergote]

I'll never understand why domestic car guys think burnouts are so cool.

I've seen a few Challenger Hellcats, but I'll agree with that video that the Charger is the cooler of the two. Being a comfy sedan probably has a lot to do with that. Saw one at Concours this year, parked up next to some limp-wristed Vipers. At first I wasn't feeling the new front end, but it's seriously grown on me. With the Hellcat being available with an automatic, it's making me wonder how difficult it would be to stick one in a Magnum. Supposedly Jeep's putting this engine into the Cherokee SRT-8, calling it a Track Cat or something like that... I dig it, the Cherokee SRT-8s are bad ass enough.

The current Charger is still using the same platform as the old Charger/Magnum/300, for the most part. I'd imagine sticking a Hellcat into a Magnum wouldn't be terribly difficult at all.
Unfortunately, the transmission is likely going to cost an arm and a leg as well. It's the ZF8HP90... good for up to 900ft.lbs, which is fantastic... but other than the Charger Hellcat, it's found in Rolls Royces and Bentleys! It appears to be a new product, so I don't imagine used ones would be easy to come by. I wouldn't want to try putting Hellcat power thorough a stock Magnum automatic.
You COULD swap to manual, which would probably end up being cheaper overall. I bet Challenger manual bits would swap in pretty easily.

Give it 5-6 years, and the swap will be relatively accessible. If you were to buy the engine and trans from the Hellcat brand new, you'd end up spending within $10,000 of the price of the entire car just to do the swap into a Magnum, I reckon. Granted, wagon > all.

[foamypirate]

Give it 5-6 years, and the swap will be relatively accessible. If you were to buy the engine and trans from the Hellcat brand new, you'd end up spending within $10,000 of the price of the entire car just to do the swap into a Magnum, I reckon. Granted, wagon > all.

CTS-V wagon + tune + E85 = done.

[AccordWarrior]

I think the most impressive thing about some of these engines these days is 700 HP with a warranty.

[wed3k]

owning a mopar product, i would want a warranty.

[illinois_erik]

Besides by the classic definition of a "Hemi" our F22 and H22 meet that design. Just something to chew on.

The F and H are technically Pent roof..though similar.

In engine design, the penta engine (or penta head) is an arrangement of the upper portion of the cylinder and valves that is common in engines using more than two valves per cylinder. It is similar in concept to the hemi engine, both in design and purpose, but a hemispherical cylinder head is limited to only two valves without the use of a more complex sub-rocker assembly. Thus penta designs tend to be more efficient.

The four-valve penta engine design was invented by Peugeot of France, to be first used in the 1911 Indianapolis 500 race.

The penta engine (also termed pentroof combustion chamber) is the most common design used today by many manufacturers for four-valve-per-cylinder engines producing relatively high horsepower for displacement, for both racing engines and engines for passenger cars.

[deevergote]

CTS-V wagon + tune + E85 = done.

Indeed. Well, a little more than that... The CTS-V wagon is still 150hp shy of Hellcat power. But yeah, it wouldn't take major work.
Still, the Magnum has a certain charm. It was a shame that it didn't last long enough to get anything but an SRT8 model. Also a shame the US never got it as a Chrysler.

I think the most impressive thing about some of these engines these days is 700 HP with a warranty.

Indeed. That was my initial thought as well. In the actual Charger/Challenger Hellcat, that is. No warranty on the engine in the video posted!

It's also good for the same reason I like the H22A. It's a "stock" engine making decent power. They're made to be owned by people that potentially know nothing about how to maintain or repair an engine beyond what is found in the owner's manual. They're made to last, because if they didn't, they wouldn't sell.