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    Shutting off/no start

    Okay so here is the run down. My girlfriends little brother's 1991 Honda Accord has been acting stupid lately.

    First off one day it wouldn't start. So I came over and saw that the fuel pump wasn't priming but the check engine light would go off when the key was in the number two position. So I figured the fuel pump was bad. So I replaced that, after replacing it we tried to start it and had no spark. So we swapped a known working distributor onto the car and it started and ran great. Couple days go by and it back to doing the same thing.

    He says the car will just start to loose power then the car will shut off and it won't start after that.

    Any helpful information or tips would be gladly appreciated it, because I am stuck scratching my head at the moment.
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    Test voltage from the alternator. Should be over 14 volts under load.

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      #3
      Originally posted by F22Chris View Post
      Test voltage from the alternator. Should be over 14 volts under load.
      Wouldn't if the alternator was bad it would still run until the battery died?

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        #4
        Originally posted by jarodnesss View Post
        Wouldn't if the alternator was bad it would still run until the battery died?
        Saying that power dies and it won't starts makes me think the battery ran out of juice. And the fact you can't start it after says the battery is drained.

        Test the alternator.

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          #5
          Originally posted by F22Chris View Post
          Saying that power dies and it won't starts makes me think the battery ran out of juice. And the fact you can't start it after says the battery is drained.

          Test the alternator.
          Okay correction. The car loses power as in fuel power no drive. Then it'll crank and crank and crank and not start.

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            #6
            Ignitor

            Originally posted by jarodnesss View Post
            Okay so here is the run down. My girlfriends little brother's 1991 Honda Accord has been acting stupid lately.

            First off one day it wouldn't start. So I came over and saw that the fuel pump wasn't priming but the check engine light would go off when the key was in the number two position. So I figured the fuel pump was bad. So I replaced that, after replacing it we tried to start it and had no spark. So we swapped a known working distributor onto the car and it started and ran great. Couple days go by and it back to doing the same thing.

            He says the car will just start to loose power then the car will shut off and it won't start after that.

            Any helpful information or tips would be gladly appreciated it, because I am stuck scratching my head at the moment.
            I'm going to keep singing my same old song...
            (Hold on, first did you pull your codes )
            ...ignitor.

            If you're an honest guy (like me) its about $5 at the junkyard
            Its code 15

            http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=21259

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              #7
              Originally posted by DCB7 View Post
              I'm going to keep singing my same old song...
              (Hold on, first did you pull your codes )
              ...ignitor.

              If you're an honest guy (like me) its about $5 at the junkyard
              Its code 15

              http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=21259
              I don't have any CEL, but I'll research the ignitor and see if I can find any hidden codes maybe.

              Any other tips would be good

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                #8
                Originally posted by DCB7 View Post
                I'm going to keep singing my same old song...
                (Hold on, first did you pull your codes )
                ...ignitor.

                If you're an honest guy (like me) its about $5 at the junkyard
                Its code 15

                http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=21259
                Are you talking about the ignition coil that is inside the distributor? Because if so wouldn't that have been ruled out when I replaced the distributor?

                Or are you talking about the ignition control modual? Those are the only two things I can pull up under ignition at autozone.

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                  Originally posted by jarodnesss View Post
                  I don't have any CEL, but I'll research the ignitor and see if I can find any hidden codes maybe.

                  Any other tips would be good
                  Originally posted by jarodnesss View Post
                  Are you talking about the ignition coil that is inside the distributor? Because if so wouldn't that have been ruled out when I replaced the distributor?

                  Or are you talking about the ignition control modual? Those are the only two things I can pull up under ignition at autozone.
                  Sorry if I wasn't clear. Im suggesting that you reset the ecu (remove the neg. battery cable for some minutes) then check your codes as shown in the link. If it's code 15 that's the ignitor/ ignition control module.

                  My bet is that it's the ignitor because a new distributor solved the problem, albeit temporarily.

                  I had a similar problem and went as far as buying a fuel pump. Luckily someone suggested ignitor before I installed it. Very easy cheap fix to a big problem. I have external coil tho

                  It could be something else, but pulling the codes won't hurt

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                    The fuel pump not priming is usually the main relay under the dash. If this cuts out while driving, the car will die as well. This is a more common problem than the ignitor.
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                      Originally posted by DCB7 View Post
                      Sorry if I wasn't clear. Im suggesting that you reset the ecu (remove the neg. battery cable for some minutes) then check your codes as shown in the link. If it's code 15 that's the ignitor/ ignition control module.

                      My bet is that it's the ignitor because a new distributor solved the problem, albeit temporarily.

                      I had a similar problem and went as far as buying a fuel pump. Luckily someone suggested ignitor before I installed it. Very easy cheap fix to a big problem. I have external coil tho

                      It could be something else, but pulling the codes won't hurt
                      So no code 15 showed up only a code 17 for the speedo

                      Originally posted by fleetw00d View Post
                      The fuel pump not priming is usually the main relay under the dash. If this cuts out while driving, the car will die as well. This is a more common problem than the ignitor.
                      Already ruled out main relay when I replaced it and the CEL clicks When the key is in the number two.

                      I also switched Ecus and still doing the same thing

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                        #12
                        Does the tach bounce while trying to start the car?

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