How to make 30+hp for $500 or less... (DX/LX F22A1 only)

[deevergote]

True. It's more like 2-5whp at most.

On Honda engines, yes... 2-5hp for an intake... MAYBE 7-8 if it's a well engineered one, paired with other complementary parts.

On other engines, you CAN gain a significant amount of power. K&N advertises gains of up to 50hp on some cars. Even if that number is halved, a 25hp gain is impressive even on a 500hp engine!

[deevergote]

Well, when you swap in an H22A, you're excited about a 200hp swap, right? Not a 165whp swap. Same thing... but this is more exciting.


Basically, the purpose of this thread is to illustrate that there are some significant upgrades that can be done with little cash, effort, and compromise (as these mods will keep the engine nearly "stock")

When this site first started, everyone assumed the F22A was a boat anchor. Then people boosted it, and it became a motor that was only good for boost. Now, it's coming to light that it is good for all-around performance as well... and though the cheap, easy gains are minimal, there are still some significant gains to be had!

[JDMxDB8]

while at the same time most people actually thing a cold air intake gets them 10-15 hp just being bolted on

True. It's more like 2-5whp at most.

[JDMxDB8]

Who said whp?

The F22A1 makes 125hp. The F22A6 makes 140hp. That's 15hp with F22A parts alone. Add the H23 intake manifold, and you're gaining more.

Will it DEFINITELY be 30hp? No. Will it be 30hp on a healthy engine? Very likely.

Ok, but don't you think it's a little misleading? You're going by with Honda says, which is basically the flywheel rating. WHP and flywheel hp are two separate hp ratings. I know you know that, but I just wanted to clarify what the mods will contribute to. Thanks for the explanation.

[Smokinspeeds]

103whp? The base RSX outputs about 135whp stock. Lol!

while at the same time most people actually thing a cold air intake gets them 10-15 hp just being bolted on

[deevergote]

Are there any dyno sheets? Kinda hard to believe these parts will result in 30+whp.

Who said whp?

The F22A1 makes 125hp. The F22A6 makes 140hp. That's 15hp with F22A parts alone. Add the H23 intake manifold, and you're gaining more.

Will it DEFINITELY be 30hp? No. Will it be 30hp on a healthy engine? Very likely.

[JDMxDB8]

dang, thats alot of gains though. it's just like an RSX with just air intake and exhaust and it'll be pushing the base RSX from 103whp all the way to 130whp. craziness.

103whp? The base RSX outputs about 135whp stock. Lol!

[nusdogg]

dang, thats alot of gains though. it's just like an RSX with just air intake and exhaust and it'll be pushing the base RSX from 103whp all the way to 130whp. craziness.

[JDMxDB8]

Are there any dyno sheets? Kinda hard to believe these parts will result in 30+whp.

[owequitit]

Mines runs very well and gets great gas mileage without the A6 cam, using a PT6. I actually got about 40.85mpg on one leg of my trip to texas.

Your still missing about 75% of the upgrade. Imagine getting equal or better mileage, WITH 5-7more HP.

[deevergote]

hey quick ? will it work for a automatic and with these parts do i have to worry bout any smog issues if so let me know thanks i wanna do this as soon as possible.

It is using all stock parts, so it should be fine for emissions. There are no radical aftermarket modifications here.

In fact, the majority of the modifications are simply changing the 125hp F22A1 to a 140hp F22A6. The only thing that MIGHT impact emissions (and it's unlikely) is the H23 intake manifold swap. You could always just do the A6 intake manifold swap, and keep the H23 plenum and throttle body on hand for when you want more power... and the A6 parts when you want to stay stock.

[foamypirate]

It will not run as good without the A6 cam. The cam is a VERY large part of the upgrade.

Mines runs very well and gets great gas mileage without the A6 cam, using a PT6. I actually got about 40.85mpg on one leg of my trip to texas.

[Nas92]

hey quick ? will it work for a automatic and with these parts do i have to worry bout any smog issues if so let me know thanks i wanna do this as soon as possible.

[owequitit]

So right now, when I start up the car tomorrow, with the a6 intake manifold, dc-sport header, and the a6 ecu already in the car (besides intake and exhaust), the car would....or would not drive the same as it did with the actual a6 in it?

It will not run as good without the A6 cam. The cam is a VERY large part of the upgrade.

[Gotz Cb7]

Where's this black box located? Is it on the actual intake manifold? And it should be a plug-in, correct? (to the ecu), so basically.....it's just dangling right now.