Head Removal

[wildBill83]

Hmmm, maybe they had been removed prior to you removing them? I've never been able to get them to break free without some real gusto and a breaker bar. He doesn't need "all this shit", just a breaker bar.

[dj_ender]

I got my 3' swivel head breaker bar for $8 at Harbor Freight, worked great for removing my crank bolt.

[wildBill83]

36" bar for $8?!? Holy hell I might have to go by there after work...

[toycar]

Maybe I'm just a brute, who knows.

Never needed anything aside from my trusty 1/2" drive craftsman ratchet. It's probably 16-18" long, and easily 10+ years old.

Ive never needed a breaker or anything else for headbolts on anything I work on. I work on lots of cars, and have probably pulled 60-75 cylinder heads in the last 25 months alone.

I don't unstake my axle nuts either. I use a breaker bar, 24", and just get right to it if I'm not using my impact. I'm a big guy @ 6'4" and 255 lbs of man steel, but by no means a body builder or freakishly strong.




Don't know, without trying to be a dick I think a lot of these posts involving people getting stuck and having a hard time, they just aren't strong enough. I've been able to bench 250+ since highschool.


All of you guys should be strong enough to bench your weight + 50%, do 20 pull ups and 30 pushups

If you can't do that, you need to hit the gym. If you can do that, you'll never start a thread saying you can't get shit loose.


You'll have threads saying you broke some shit, that didn't want to come loose.


Lol

[wildBill83]

I'm 5'9" 170lbs and my friends like to laugh at me when I'm working on my Honda... damn them and all their Chevy/Ford pickups with a ton of work space... I just like to use the right tool for the job, I have cheap-ish ratchets and don't like to buy more so I don't push them to their limits. I rock the Husky brand from the Home Depot, but they should be garaunteed for life.

[SilverFox]

Maybe I'm just a brute, who knows.

Never needed anything aside from my trusty 1/2" drive craftsman ratchet. It's probably 16-18" long, and easily 10+ years old.

Ive never needed a breaker or anything else for headbolts on anything I work on. I work on lots of cars, and have probably pulled 60-75 cylinder heads in the last 25 months alone.

I don't unstake my axle nuts either. I use a breaker bar, 24", and just get right to it if I'm not using my impact. I'm a big guy @ 6'4" and 255 lbs of man steel, but by no means a body builder or freakishly strong.

Don't know, without trying to be a dick I think a lot of these posts involving people getting stuck and having a hard time, they just aren't strong enough. I've been able to bench 250+ since highschool.

All of you guys should be strong enough to bench your weight + 50%, do 20 pull ups and 30 pushups

If you can't do that, you need to hit the gym. If you can do that, you'll never start a thread saying you can't get shit loose.

You'll have threads saying you broke some shit, that didn't want to come loose.


Lol

Quite the contradiction there... and I can assure you I'm not weak as said in my original post I broke the first wrench trying to break em loose. I'm pushing only 6% bodyfat at 5'11 and I max 215lbs on the bench, 14 consecutive full extension pull ups, and 77 push ups in two minutes, after running two miles in 15:49 with my ROTC Raiders Team which took home 4th at the Florida States Qualifier out of 30+ schools but our fitness doesnt matter in this situation...

[Stoner51]

That's great and all; But you need a breaker bar or a cheater bar and be prepaired to ruin a ratchet.
And I'm going to hit the fridge for a beer and I bet tomorrow I'll take my breaker bar and take my head off.

Just get the right tools. Leverage is your friend. brute strength will break shit everytime.

Trust me I've done it.

steve

[LinX]

I hope you have a properly functioning torque wrench to install the NEW bolts in place.

[toycar]

Quite the contradiction there... and I can assure you I'm not weak as said in my original post I broke the first wrench trying to break em loose. I'm pushing only 6% bodyfat at 5'11 and I max 215lbs on the bench, 14 consecutive full extension pull ups, and 77 push ups in two minutes, after running two miles in 15:49 with my ROTC Raiders Team which took home 4th at the Florida States Qualifier out of 30+ schools but our fitness doesnt matter in this situation...

Sounds like you are on the right track with your fitness, but seriously max @215 is weak as fuck. I benched more than that in 8th grade. I really hope you weren't trying to mention that like its something to be proud of. You have a lot of work to do man.


Its funny that you took all the time to quote and highlight my post, then make silly comments about it.


All the while you fucking failed to read what I said.


Bravo junior

Ive never needed a breaker or anything else for headbolts on anything I work on. I work on lots of cars, and have probably pulled 60-75 cylinder heads in the last 25 months alone.

I don't unstake my axle nuts either. I use a breaker bar, 24", and just get right to it if I'm not using my impact.

As you can see, I clearly said I have never needed a breaker bar or anything of the sort for headbolts. On anything I work on.


I clearly said I dont unstake my axle nuts either. I said I use a breaker bar and get right to it. And thats the truth.



Learn to read before you get all excited about making a point

I'm 5'9" 170lbs and my friends like to laugh at me when I'm working on my Honda... damn them and all their Chevy/Ford pickups with a ton of work space... I just like to use the right tool for the job, I have cheap-ish ratchets and don't like to buy more so I don't push them to their limits. I rock the Husky brand from the Home Depot, but they should be garaunteed for life.

hit the gym homie

[GhostAccord]

Then they were aftermarket...

^These are OEM and are 12pt H22A* head bolts...

The H22's that came stock with 12 point head bolts were the Type S or H22A7 and the 2000-2001 H22A4 with the PCB head casting. The DOHC F20B also had the 12 point bolts.


As far as removing the bolts goes, using an impact gun can be a waste of time... The bolts could twist that much and never break loose. A 1/2" drive 24-36" breaker bar and impact socket will work every time. Don't be afraid to come on to it!

[1990exr]

whoever said "all" torque wrenches are not made to flex is wrong, some torque wrenches thats how they work, or atleast mine does, needle attached to the socket end used as a pointer, may not be the best torque wrench but it is made by design to flex.

[SilverFox]

Bringing this back to the top

I've purchased a 18'' long 1/2'' drive breaker bar using a 6pt 14mm socket, that failed me as well. And for those that believe it is because I am weak... I even called in some Muscle to give it a try and all he managed to do was put a crack in my bumper where he tried to gain extra leverage pushing off of it. So I went back to my 1/2'' drive electric impact wrench using a 14mm 6pt deep impact socket only to get the same results as before. No budge on these damned head bolts
I've also tried combinations of WD-40 and PB Blaster on both cases

[oyajicool]

Removing extremely hard and stubborn screws, nuts and bolts, I give a very little twist in the direction of them installed, just enough to break the bond. And then back out to remove.

This trick worked for me 95% or better of times.

I've never had this kind of issue when removing head bolts. So proceed with caution on it.

[SilverFox]

Removing extremely hard and stubborn screws, nuts and bolts, I give a very little twist in the direction of them installed, just enough to break the bond. And then back out to remove.

This trick worked for me 95% or better of times.

I've never had this kind of issue when removing head bolts. So proceed with caution on it.

I actually thought about it the earlier today when I staring frustratingly at my CB's bay. But the risk kinda scared me away from the notion... really don't want to snap off a bolt head.

[oyajicool]

Either way the bolts have to come off for you to work on the engine and cylinder head. You should be using impact sockets so they don't break. You can get them cheap from Harbor Freight or Northern Tools.

You would provably better off with new head bolts on installation of the head since existing bolts may have been subjected to over torqued anyways.