H23 Swap

[Smokinspeeds]

I would hit up collectorcarkid hes in your city and his dad has a full shop that dose only hondas and caleb has a h22 swapped accord wag he swapped in himself. caleb is also a Honda technician at renton Honda. I would get ahold of him he can hook you up properly and show you what all you need for it..... or if you want a road trip Joey dose have a nice shop and dose good work for cheap too... but caleb would prob be most convenient for you....

Do it... Word of mouth will get you the best mechanic for our cars.

[XCRN]

So regarding the gaskets etc, would the ebay kits be OK to use except for the head gasket? This includes main bearings and piston rings.

[deevergote]

My rule of thumb is: if it's going to be a pain in the ass to replace, or if it's going to destroy something expensive if it fails... buy quality, and install it carefully.
Anything that's easy to replace and won't do damage... save a few bucks and take your chances with the cheap parts. If they fail, you can either gamble again with more cheap stuff, or bite the bullet and get the quality parts the next time around.
I do this with my ignition components (coil and ignitor). They won't hurt anything when they fail, other than stranding the car... so rather than coughing up $60+ each for new, I snag junkyard parts every time I go. 1 out of 3 junkyard parts ends up working for a little while, at least!

For engine seals, timing belt, etc... those things can cause some pretty massive damage if they fail. These engines have lasted 20 years with original parts (hell, some even have 20 year old timing belts, like my h22!) so using OEM parts and installing them properly will probably guarantee you another 20 years of worry-free operation.

[Smokinspeeds]

For engine seals, timing belt, etc... those things can cause some pretty massive damage if they fail. These engines have lasted 20 years with original parts (hell, some even have 20 year old timing belts, like my h22!) so using OEM parts and installing them properly will probably guarantee you another 20 years of worry-free operation.

^this. Cheap front main seals/water/oil pumps have a way of failing, sometimes in less than a year. Certain things you want to never fail, others you can chance. If it can destroy the motor internally, or will require you to remove the motor to replace, cheap is never wise. There was a cheap ebay XTD clutch on my civic that was not worth using again, it literally had chunks missing out of the pads and the matching flywheel had multiple burned sections. The time and inconvenience of replacing some things in 1-2 years instead of 5-10 is much, much more in the long run.

[deevergote]

My CB7 has been down for nearly 5 years due to an XTD clutch kit. The throwout bearing seized, and fried everything clutch-related (especially since i still drove it home... shifting without the clutch for 100+ miles.)

I have installed another XTD kit. Do as I say, kids... not as I do.

[XCRN]

Would Honda dealerships or online part stored have the kits, or is it seperate?

[wildBill83]

All OEM parts I use come from RockAuto.com, I rarely go to the stealership. Honda has good parts, don't get me wrong. Thing is there are only a few real OEM manufacturers and you don't need to get quality parts only from Honda. RockAuto.com parts generally meet or exceed OEM specs and are generally also from the manufacturer Honda purchases their parts from. I just get tired of markups.

[deevergote]

Don't buy a kit. All you're doing is paying someone else to put everything together for you in one bundle.

And yes, RockAuto is a good source for both quality parts AND cheapie parts, depending on what you want to get. Best to research to see who the OEM manufacturers are for various important parts, so you can be sure to get the same (another part may or may not be equal... Bosch o2 sensors, for example. Bosch is a good company, and they basically invented the o2 sensor. Their o2 sensors aren't cheap. However, they do not work well on our cars.)

Another good option is hondaautomotiveparts.com. They're a Honda dealership in CT, but they're very well known as an online supplier of discounted parts. Not everything is cheap, but it's a good place to check OEM part prices. If you can get something at a good price through them, and shipping isn't insane (sometimes their shipping sucks ass...) then that's always a good option. It's buying from a dealership.

[XCRN]

So use an online page as a shopping list then?

[deevergote]

Essentially. Plus, if you order it all at once, you only pay shipping once. You pretty much create your own kit.

[XCRN]

Nice to see this come togather.

[Smokinspeeds]

My CB7 has been down for nearly 5 years due to an XTD clutch kit. The throwout bearing seized, and fried everything clutch-related (especially since i still drove it home... shifting without the clutch for 100+ miles.)

I have installed another XTD kit. Do as I say, kids... not as I do.

From what behave researched, you should never use any kit throwout bearing. Even good brand bearings have a high tendency to fail vs stock Honda bearings.

[deevergote]

Yup.
I DID use a Honda throwout bearing this time around, at least.

[XCRN]

Maybe others tried to fix something that Honda put there intentionally?

[deevergote]

What do you mean?