Boston Marathon bombing

[toycar]

Im interested in why big brother had a wife and kid up in RI, in a ritzy neighborhood , that he only visited on weekends.

Supposedly she was a normal chick one day, and came back the next married and in full islamic dress....and then rarely left the house...

Not speculating on the muslim shit, just saying generally, that's fucking strange.

I saw a program once that said when people are selected for carrying out shit like this, they usually get some lump of cash to "live it up" until its time to carry out the plan.

I've actually seen lots of stuff implying that the people that kill themselves or die in a blaze for their cause(crazy muslim stuff)-those people and their families get well taken care of for their duty.

They get to live like a king till the day they die, and their families are lifted from poverty and given a life worth living as well.


Some of the shit they talk about is crazy too. I saw a show on dateline once that talked about how they convince children that when they wear a vest and detonate it, that they will survive but everyone else will die because "ala" will protect them.

Then some 8 year old kid goes to a market and blows himself up as a result.


Crazy culture over there. What I don't understand is how Muslim culture has set up in America, and how those Muslims generally don't even accept violence in their lives at all. They are like, the most peacefull people alive.

Being Muslim in America must mean different things than being Muslim over there. I am sure there is an explanation and I am just uneducated on the topic, but it just trips me out that they can be so different but claim to be the same.

I don't get it.

[GhostAccord]

Im interested in why big brother had a wife and kid up in RI, in a ritzy neighborhood , that he only visited on weekends.

Supposedly she was a normal chick one day, and came back the next married and in full islamic dress....and then rarely left the house...

Not speculating on the muslim shit, just saying generally, that's fucking strange.

Guess she found religion..... or was told to find it or else!

[Ralphie]

I saw a program once that said when people are selected for carrying out shit like this, they usually get some lump of cash to "live it up" until its time to carry out the plan.

I've actually seen lots of stuff implying that the people that kill themselves or die in a blaze for their cause(crazy muslim stuff)-those people and their families get well taken care of for their duty.

They get to live like a king till the day they die, and their families are lifted from poverty and given a life worth living as well.


Some of the shit they talk about is crazy too. I saw a show on dateline once that talked about how they convince children that when they wear a vest and detonate it, that they will survive but everyone else will die because "ala" will protect them.

Then some 8 year old kid goes to a market and blows himself up as a result.


Crazy culture over there. What I don't understand is how Muslim culture has set up in America, and how those Muslims generally don't even accept violence in their lives at all. They are like, the most peacefull people alive.

Being Muslim in America must mean different things than being Muslim over there. I am sure there is an explanation and I am just uneducated on the topic, but it just trips me out that they can be so different but claim to be the same.

I don't get it.

Well that's because for the most part, there are plenty of peaceful muslims outside the US.

You only hear about the extremist ones who blow themselves up.

Muslim means a lot of different things, depending on where in the world you are.

They are much more violent outside the US generally though, when it comes to certain things like aldultery etc..

they stone/beat/hang people for a lot of shit.

We don't stand for that kind of thing, so we don't allow it to happen here, or we try our best to not have it happen.

[toycar]

We don't stand for that kind of thing, so we don't allow it to happen here, or we try our best to not have it happen.

I agree that this helps stop the problems in America, but, generally speaking any time I have met a Muslim person in America they are just flipping nice as can be and preach about peace and harmony.


Which is what is so confusing to me about these whackos.


I mean, I get that they twist the koran and twist the interpretations and shit. It's just ODD that there can be such a wide variety of people all studying the same book, thinking it means different shit.

[Ralphie]

I agree that this helps stop the problems in America, but, generally speaking any time I have met a Muslim person in America they are just flipping nice as can be and preach about peace and harmony.


Which is what is so confusing to me about these whackos.


I mean, I get that they twist the koran and twist the interpretations and shit. It's just ODD that there can be such a wide variety of people all studying the same book, thinking it means different shit.

No different then you.

Not sure what religion, if any, you follow.

But lets say for arguments sake you follow christianity...

christians have gone off the deep end and im sure plenty have done horrible things in the past....

You're probably a real nice guy though huh?




In the words of a true madman, "We all go a little mad sometimes".

[mtnbikaah]

[jhoff]

My 2 cents.
This whole thing does not add up.

If I was to plan a bombing at a event, I would of at least planned a exit. There was no exit strategy. The whole MIT/711 doesnt line up with the events ether. Getting his brother shot and ran over by cops. Shutting down the city and looking for one person, they dont do that for rapist with a gun. Hinding in a boat, and getting shot in the throat so he cant speak. Nothing is adding up with this. If the goverment did pay these people and use them as a false flag, the days were the city was shut down could have been used to clean the evidence up as well.
All of the events and reports dont add up.

[toycar]

My 2 cents.
This whole thing does not add up.

If I was to plan a bombing at a event, I would of at least planned a exit. There was no exit strategy. The whole MIT/711 doesnt line up with the events ether. Getting his brother shot and ran over by cops. Shutting down the city and looking for one person, they dont do that for rapist with a gun. Hinding in a boat, and getting shot in the throat so he cant speak. Nothing is adding up with this. If the goverment did pay these people and use them as a false flag, the days were the city was shut down could have been used to clean the evidence up as well.
All of the events and reports dont add up.

Are you serious?



Lol if you are.



The dude tried to kill himself. He shot down, through his throat instead of up, through his brain.



Whats so hard to understand about that? They have on video these guys with the bombs, and the video shows the kid dropping the bomb and walking away.


You have got to be kidding me with your gov conspiracy bs.



Lol



They probably didn't have an exit plan, because they didn't plan on getting caught so fast. They had other attacks planned, thats why they had so many other bombs.


Geeze.

[Ralphie]

They did have an exit plan-

If they didn't, they would have been apprehended on the day of the bombing...

or do you mean a plan to flee the country?

I don't believe they wanted to flee, I think they wanted to create havoc and death, and they suceeded.

Don't even bother arguing with him over it. He has been saying the same thing over and over since the 3rd page lol.

It's a waste.

[Ralphie]

Also of note-

Abundance of proof of guilt on their part...

for the people who think it's just another govt conspiracy....

an abundance of no proof...

And it's always that way.

They take one thing that doesn't add up, and mash it together with a bunch of bs to form an inconvienent truth.

How do those red herrings taste?

[Accrdwgnguy]

x2. Perfect example, every religion has extremists that twist the words of their texts to align with their views of how the world should be.

[jhoff]

There is no theroy.

The Goverment has used planned events or false flags in history to start wars or change laws. Its been proven.

For example: 9/11
The Patriot Act allows legal searches of your home with out any warrants.
Everyone knows that 9/11 was used for not only war but also quite a few laws to be passed.

With the Sandy Hook, Theater, and this. I will be watching what Freedoms we will loose next.

Remember the Goverment doesnt even produce its own currency. Everything is about control.

What do all men with power want? More power. -The Oracle

[toycar]

There is no theroy.

The Goverment has used planned events or false flags in history to start wars or change laws. Its been proven.

For example: 9/11
The Patriot Act allows legal searches of your home with out any warrants.
Everyone knows that 9/11 was used for not only war but also quite a few laws to be passed.

With the Sandy Hook, Theater, and this. I will be watching what Freedoms we will loose next.

Remember the Goverment doesnt even produce its own currency. Everything is about control.

What do all men with power want? More power. -The Oracle

Dude don't be a tool. The gov has been able to enter your home w/out telling you for decades. ONCE A WARRANT HAS BEEN OBTAINED.


This isn't anything that changed because of the patriot act.


They have been entering homes/businesses in organized crime, bugging the place and waiting for information for as long as the technology has been available. You think they announce their presence when they bug the place?


Do you think they can do that w/out a warrant? They cannot, and don't. Just because you are not served with a warrant when they execute it, doesn't mean its illegal. To get a warrant, you have to have probable cause. If they can justify the warrant, they will. Regardless if they tell you or not.


Many of you have probably read by now that I lived a questionable life of organized crime in the 90's. Back then, we were aware that the fuzz was doing stuff like this to try and catch us.


It is nothing new.


Pulled straight from justice.gov

Section 213. Authority for delaying notice of the execution of a warrant.

Summary: Allows courts, in certain narrow circumstances, to give delayed notice that a search warrant has been executed.


Myth: "It expands the government's ability to search private property without notice to the owner." [ACLU, Apr. 3, 2003]


Reality:


Delayed notification warrants are a long-existing, crime-fighting tool upheld by courts nationwide for decades in organized crime, drug cases and child pornography.


Section 213 of USA PATRIOT Act simply codified the authority law enforcement already had for decades. Because of differences between jurisdictions, the law was a mix of inconsistent standards that varied widely across the country. This lack of uniformity hindered complex terrorism cases. Section 213 resolved the problem by establishing a uniform statutory standard. Section 213 is a vital aspect of our strategy of prevention - detecting and incapacitating terrorists before they are able to strike.


The Supreme Court has held the Fourth Amendment does not require law enforcement to give immediate notice of the execution of a search warrant. The Supreme Court emphasized "that covert entries are constitutional in some circumstances, at least if they are made pursuant to a warrant." In fact, the Court stated that an argument to the contrary was "frivolous." Dalia v. U.S., 441 U.S. 238 (1979). In yet another case, the Court said, "officers need not announce their purpose before conducting an otherwise [duly] authorized search if such an announcement would provoke the escape of the suspect or the destruction of critical evidence." Katz v. U.S., 389 U.S. 347 (1967).


If the Otter Amendment, passed in the House July 22, 2003, becomes law, it would have a devastating effect on our ongoing efforts to detect and prevent terrorism, as well as to combat other serious crimes. This amendment could tip off terrorists or criminals to investigations before law enforcement could obtain the needed information to locate their terrorists or criminal associates, identify and disrupt their plans, or initiate their arrests.


Premature notification of a search warrant could result in the intimidation of witnesses, destruction of evidence, flight from prosecution, physical injury, and even death.


In all cases, section 213 requires law enforcement to give notice that property has been searched or seized. It simply allows agents to temporarily delay when the required notification is given.


This authority can be used only upon the issuance of a court order, in extremely narrow circumstances. Courts can delay notice only when immediate notification may result in death or physical harm to an individual, flight from prosecution, evidence tampering, or witness intimidation.


Under section 213, courts can delay notice if there is "reasonable cause" to believe that immediate notification may have a specified adverse result. The "reasonable cause" standard is consistent with pre-PATRIOT Act caselaw for delayed notice of warrants. See, e.g., United States v. Villegas, 899 F.2d 1324, 1337 (2d Cir. 1990) (government must show "good reason" for delayed notice of warrants).


Section 213 is important to law-enforcement investigations of a wide variety of serious crimes, including domestic and international terrorism, drug trafficking, organized crime, and child pornography.


In United States v. Odeh, a recent narco-terrorism case, a court issued a section 213 warrant in connection with the search of an envelope that had been mailed to a target of an investigation. The search confirmed that the target was operating a hawala money exchange that was used to funnel money to the Middle East, including to an individual associated with someone accused of being an operative for Islamic Jihad in Israel. The delayed-notice provision allowed investigators to conduct the search without fear of compromising an ongoing wiretap on the target and several of the confederates. The target was later charged and notified of the search warrant.


During an investigation into a nationwide organization that distributes marijuana, cocaine and methamphetamine, the court issued a delayed notice warrant to search the residence in which agents seized in excess of 225 kilograms of drugs. The organization involved relied heavily on the irregular use of cell phones, and usually discontinued the use of cell phones after a seizure of the drugs and drug proceeds, making continued telephone interception difficult. Interceptions after the delayed notice seizure indicated that the suspects thought other drug dealers had stolen their drugs, and none of the telephones intercepted were disposed of, and no one in the organization discontinued their use of telephones. The government was able to prevent these drugs from being sold, without disrupting the larger investigation.









So since 1979 the supreme court has ruled that they don't have to tell you when they execute the warrant.







Waiting for next silly conspiracy shenanigan

[Ralphie]

There is no theroy.

The Goverment has used planned events or false flags in history to start wars or change laws. Its been proven.

For example: 9/11
The Patriot Act allows legal searches of your home with out any warrants.
Everyone knows that 9/11 was used for not only war but also quite a few laws to be passed.

With the Sandy Hook, Theater, and this. I will be watching what Freedoms we will loose next.

Remember the Goverment doesnt even produce its own currency. Everything is about control.

What do all men with power want? More power. -The Oracle

Im curious, and maybe you can enlighten me.....

What freedoms have you lost already?

[jhoff]

If he was shot in the throat, how was he still moving? Wouldnt you be limited to the amount of air you could take in? What about the blood in your throat, wouldnt you choke on that?
He was listed as critical. He doesnt look critical. Looks fine, abit susprised if anything.

We have lost alot of privacy through the years. It all happens to start with big events that dont add up.
Im not some tin hat wearing creep. I dont believe in every theory. I am not aginst our goverment. I vote every election just like everyone else. I just question everything I dont understand. Im not out here starting wars on the boards.
Just go look how the Media has handled this event with errors and wrong information being presented to us.
Doesnt anyone find it odd that in the last year we have had alot of major events on our soil? More than we have ever had.
Then after these events we find evidence that doesnt line up.