Originally posted by 19dabeast85
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Originally posted by 19dabeast85 View Post^^^^
The non-buyers are hanging around and still posting because deep down, they hope the group buy fails in some way so they can laugh at, point fingers, or say "I told you so" to the buyers. It's human nature to have the tendency to try to make yourself feel better by putting down others for any reason. There really isn't any other reason for any of the non-buyers to be in here saying what a bad feeling they had in the first place and they're glad they didn't get in on it, etc.
I'm 100% confident that Bisimoto is a wise businessman and wise businessmen honor their word. One day, be it a year from now, a custom header will arrive at my door and I will smile because I know it has been designed by a fluid-dynamics expert with years worth of experience specifically for my engine. I win!
NOBODY got into this group buy expecting the header to show up in a week. It was clearly said that it would take time, and honestly... with anything THIS custom, delays beyond the expected completion date should always be assumed.
If I wanted a header NOW, I'd order some cookie-cutter POS and weld a bigger collector on it. It'd make a little power. But to have the BEST header, tailored to my specific setup... that also looks fantastic... that's something to be proud of!
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yeah...
If you want to know what immediately constitutes then ask some of the people who have already bought them.
Or contact bisimoto themselves.
If you are that concerned with it I suggest you try either of those routs and not posting that question in a thread where people are waiting for the header...
basically what I am getting at is you don't really care what the answer is so much as to discredit what he said. If you came in here and said xxxx got his header in 3 weeks, and I don't think that is what the word immediately means. I would believe your interest in gathering information.
Instead I just see you posing questions that you could get answers to without the run around.
So I will say SEARCH and ASK the right people... please.
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Originally posted by nostringz View Postlol guys cool it, i was over on onecamonly.com's forum, and they say we are whiney. if people have any experience with raceshops (especially the good ones) it will take awhile for things to get done, for example port&polish...
YYEAAAHHHH
lol jk
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Alright, the "whining" stops.
To be quite honest, kentucky_accord is presenting a valid argument, and he's not bashing anyone in any way.
I believe in Bisi, and this forum supports him completely. However, that doesn't mean that everything he says and does is absolute gold. The header IS taking a long time. Communication has been very limited, and people wonder what the progress is.
Guys like kentucky_accord, skeptical, long-time serious tuners... see sparse communication, a high price tag, and a bunch of nut-riders defending someone that they know no more about than those doubting... and they decide not to buy. If anything, accurate, honest answers to kentucky_accord's questions would INCREASE the sales of this header.
Personally, I'm not going to buy something that a buch of people tell me is great... a bunch of people that are sitting on $300, and have another $300 floating around in limbo somewhere. I would trust Bisi... but I have a much more personal connection with him. If I were someone new who only knew him as some guy that makes headers... I'd go elsewhere.
So please. The disrespect shown in this thread is by the "loyal" members, not the person with legitimate questions. If it continues, I will lock this thread, so the only people that can post in it are Bisi, Justin, and the CB7tuner staff.
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Originally posted by xkjnboix View Postthis is still going on ??? lol my goosh. who hasnt paid yet ^__^ ill pay their other half if i get the nice shiney header ^__^
Everyone has paid (either their required down payment or in full) and the stainless is sitting in customs.
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